I guess HostMonster.com has people that are willing to make a TOS decision to kill a site on site 24/7 but the 1 person to call to get it restored is never in the office...
I called last night and left a message. I just called because the HostMonster.com site abuse department is open at 6am MST and got the voice mail again.
No they did not. In fact the person on the phone was considerably less than helpful.
I told him the domains and he cheerfully looked it up saying "Lets see if we can't get this right". Then a drawn breath, a log pause and a terse "your site is in violation of the TOS" you need to call XXX at ext. XXX to get more information.
Of course, this person does not exist, at least she is not taking my phone calls.
My guess is she has been huddled by the woodstove with her computer, just waiting for the opportunity to report TOS violations (her having nothing better to do). My guess is she is probably doing the same here.
The thing is, she just doesn't understand that teh wheel is not a place that can be destroyed. It is a community, and no matter what happens, teh wheel will keep spinnin'.
Deb, if you are reading (and I know you are)... you lose ... AGAIN!!!
Oh, sorry, Brenda's dryer, and all. Drive-by good mornin' to everyone. Now, lets get back to work.
I'm sorry that you're having trouble with one of our clients.
As you know, ours is a democratic country, where people can say what they like about one another. Certainly, if you've been libeled or slandered you may have some legal recourse for that having happened. This legal recourse would be between yourself and our client exclusively, and would be a matter for civil court to decide on.
We do not take down websites without an official court order to do so. It would be a violation of our clients' rights, to demand anything less, prior to removing a site from our servers. If your attorney is able to obtain an injunction, or other form of court order, please share a notarized copy of that letter with us. If we're able to verify the authenticity of the document, we'll honor the request therein to remove the website from our servers.
I don't see how this happened given the above text proudly appearing in their FAQ.
*yawn* Gooood morning, all! We're in the midst of a wild downpour here in So. Cal.- thick fat drops and howling wind. And I have to drive teh ribbon of death today! Yipes! I want some o' Timmeh's coffee...
Sinner- thanks for the updates. You go get 'em, boss! Didn't teh courts just rule that teh hosts are not liable for comments left on a blog? I'm no lawyer, but if we were shut down due to comments, someone at Hostmonster needs a good asswhupping.
Ha, back in the day, we used EBCDIC, and were happy to have it! Before that, we had buckets of bits, ones and zeros (except for the Ruskies, who had negative ones, too), and we had to assemble every character by hand.
Programming those computers we chipped from flint (again, by hand!) was always a bitch.
Ah, but Snoopy calendars printed on a chaintrain printer - now *that* was art!
If Deb did indeed get us shut down, the only proper response is to get back up, never mention it was her, and make merry!
I already did long typing trying to get in. Short version: This is a driveby. Gotta take BW to teh dr. in a few hours. Much to do before then.
BW is very freaked because teh voice is still completely gone at volume. Not even a gerbil "squeak" comes out. Whisper only. Supposed to return to work tommorrow, ain't gonna happen.
Much paranoia about voice being gone forever. I know that isn't teh case. Anyway, whistling worked for Harpo Marx. (BW not amused by that comment}.
Thanks in advance for teh thoughs & prayers that are ongoing.
I will check in later today when I can.
This was teh short version? Haha
P.S. Did anyone notice that Blizz's washerspecs said "Silver ions are dispensed with the washing and rinsing cycles" ?
We do get teh silver ions! There's actually a special cycle to put the ions into your clothes, and reportedly some small silver bars that produce them. They're supposed to make your clothes more santiary!
Must be frustrating for teh DEB-Vile. Shelob gets shut down & no one knows or cares if she sets up someplace else. We go dark & legions of folks follow. Hahaha FREE KIVA! FREE JEB! JAIL DEB!
Just dropping in to say hi. It took me a while to get here- I couldn't remember my password from last week. Kinda spooky in here. I miss teh bigger cage.
I'm back! Ok, I never actually made it to teh ribbon of death, mostly because the frickin' line to get on the damn thing is over an HOUR LONG. No WAY!
I called in, got the ok to skip teh office this morning, and am on call for any billing related emergencies. I'm anticipating a quiet morning:) Yay for great bosses!
I guess I misinterpreted something Sinner said yesterday, that made me think it was teh wrongness thread that shut us down. That's a relief.
As for TSW being set up to harass, what a crock! Half a dozen or so threads are put up every day, and Sinner has referred to DF only what? -- 2, 3, 4 times in total?
Some commenters refer to her at times, but he's not responsible for teh comments.
OPEN THREAD
79 comments:
Love teh life boat, X.
See ya'll (sic) in teh morning, campers.
DFC!
Hello? Anybody still aboard?
WTFF happened to our wheel?
Oh well. Nice boat. Reminds me of something ... what is it ... ah yes ...
Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies
Farewell and adieu you ladies of Spain
Hey there BH.
You want to change your name, your avatar, etc., just click on your name and it'll take you there. I'm testing avatars now
hey blizz!
backhoe! don't go!
Ski-Doo-by comment -
Goooood morning, campers...
[hennyyoungman]
...and welcome to Teh Leaky Wheel!
*Ba-dum-pssht*
If we've indeed been hulled by a Frischberg, that makes this "A Night To Remember"
*Ba-dum-pssht*
Has anyone seen Michael? He rowed teh boat ashore and then disappeared...
*Ba-dum-pssht*
It's a good thing that so many gerbils espouse life boat humor.
*Ba-dum-pssht*
Oar locks?!? I thought you said Morlocks!
*Ba-dum-pssht*
I'll be here all week; try teh coconuts!
[/hennyyoungman]
I'll certainly be curious to learn precisely why TSW got torpedoed. I, too, suspect revenge.
I blame Hillary!
See you all later; I've gotta get teh sand out of my man-thong...
Ok, I'm curious what happened to TSW ... violation of terms of service? Did it have anything to do with the foulfest going on yesterday afternoon?
Blizz -
From skimming teh overnights, it appears that we got yanked for violating teh host's TOS. Sinner will, no doubt, keep us updated.
As to why, I've got a couple of guesses. But since they're just that, I'm going to wait and see what we learn later.
Once again, kudos to BroTimmeh! for his foresight.
[conspiracytheorist]
Saaayyy...you don't think that he's teh one who got us yanked just so we'd appreciate his setting this place up?
[/conspiracytheorist]
You mean this might be some kind of weird case of munchausen syndrome by proxy? Oh NOES!!1!!
I guess HostMonster.com has people that are willing to make a TOS decision to kill a site on site 24/7 but the 1 person to call to get it restored is never in the office...
I called last night and left a message. I just called because the HostMonster.com site abuse department is open at 6am MST and got the voice mail again.
This is really starting to tick me off.
Well... OK continuing to tick me off.
Also, funny thing is that one of the last hits recorded by the offsite stats service was Miss Debbie©
When did it stop responding?
Hey Master Sinner, did they define what exact term we violated?
No they did not. In fact the person on the phone was considerably less than helpful.
I told him the domains and he cheerfully looked it up saying "Lets see if we can't get this right". Then a drawn breath, a log pause and a terse "your site is in violation of the TOS" you need to call XXX at ext. XXX to get more information.
Of course, this person does not exist, at least she is not taking my phone calls.
Sinner -
G'morning!
Glad I stopped by prior to leaving the house. TSW went down approximately 20.15 EST.
Good luck, Mr. Phelps.
I feel a hostmonstersucks.blogspot.com comming on...
Debbie's© visit was at 19:45...
hmmmmmmmmmm
Sinner - is there anyone you can escalate this to?
I'd call the terse dude back and get another name. Ask for his supervisor...that usually galvanizes people.
My guess is she has been huddled by the woodstove with her computer, just waiting for the opportunity to report TOS violations (her having nothing better to do). My guess is she is probably doing the same here.
The thing is, she just doesn't understand that teh wheel is not a place that can be destroyed. It is a community, and no matter what happens, teh wheel will keep spinnin'.
Deb, if you are reading (and I know you are)... you lose ... AGAIN!!!
Oh, sorry, Brenda's dryer, and all. Drive-by good mornin' to everyone. Now, lets get back to work.
-VoR-
The person that I need to talk to keeps banker's hours. So at least another 3 hours.
I did get someone there to say that the TOS violation was that it was used specifically to harass someone.
I guess this flowery language on their site means nothing.
What she doesn't seem to grasp is that the Wheel is not a Web site. The Wheel is a community.
And I think the powers that be will be very surprised when they find out who cried "harassment."
I'm sorry that you're having trouble with one of our clients.
As you know, ours is a democratic country, where people can say what they like about one another. Certainly, if you've been libeled or slandered you may have some legal recourse for that having happened. This legal recourse would be between yourself and our client exclusively, and would be a matter for civil court to decide on.
We do not take down websites without an official court order to do so. It would be a violation of our clients' rights, to demand anything less, prior to removing a site from our servers. If your attorney is able to obtain an injunction, or other form of court order, please share a notarized copy of that letter with us. If we're able to verify the authenticity of the document, we'll honor the request therein to remove the website from our servers.
I don't see how this happened given the above text proudly appearing in their FAQ.
Could it be that Host Monster Sucks?
That says "if you can produce a court order." Did they READ Teh Debbie's court order? It probably shut HER down. ... She can't even get a lawyer.
It does seem unlikely that she could get a court order.
Well, a court order applying to US, she probably has a big fat folder of court orders applying to her! Cease and desist. Contempt. STFU Debbie.
*yawn* Gooood morning, all! We're in the midst of a wild downpour here in So. Cal.- thick fat drops and howling wind. And I have to drive teh ribbon of death today! Yipes! I want some o' Timmeh's coffee...
Sinner- thanks for the updates. You go get 'em, boss! Didn't teh courts just rule that teh hosts are not liable for comments left on a blog? I'm no lawyer, but if we were shut down due to comments, someone at Hostmonster needs a good asswhupping.
"R-r-release The Hounds!"
dammit.
Pretty avatar, Blizz!
I love Blizz's avatar, too
:)
Good morning, Timmeh!
Is this the ruling you are talking about Blizz?
*sigh* Time to roust teh pups and begin my scary morning. Wish me luck!
I'll check in later.
dipsy, out.
Morning Dipsy~~
| ******** |
| ******** |--
| ******** |**|
|__________|--
I hope this coffee-cup will do.
;)
Sinner, that's teh one. Applicable?
Hmmmm...
ASCII Art leaves much to be
deesired...
:)
ASCII art?
Ha, back in the day, we used EBCDIC, and were happy to have it! Before that, we had buckets of bits, ones and zeros (except for the Ruskies, who had negative ones, too), and we had to assemble every character by hand.
Programming those computers we chipped from flint (again, by hand!) was always a bitch.
Ah, but Snoopy calendars printed on a chaintrain printer - now *that* was art!
If Deb did indeed get us shut down, the only proper response is to get back up, never mention it was her, and make merry!
A good day to all of the GN!
Kirk, Knight Gerbil of Teh Serious Pwnage
BTW, remember that there are *plenty* of hosting services.
(hint, hint)
Kirk
Testing
I hate blogger
Kirk~
That's really kewl!
I wish I'd've been in on teh
early days of 'putin.
I already did long typing trying to get in.
Short version:
This is a driveby. Gotta take BW to teh dr. in a few hours. Much to do before then.
BW is very freaked because teh voice is still completely gone at volume. Not even a gerbil "squeak" comes out. Whisper only. Supposed to return to work tommorrow, ain't gonna happen.
Much paranoia about voice being gone forever. I know that isn't teh case. Anyway, whistling worked for Harpo Marx. (BW not amused by that comment}.
Thanks in advance for teh thoughs & prayers that are ongoing.
I will check in later today when I can.
This was teh short version? Haha
P.S. Did anyone notice that Blizz's washerspecs said "Silver ions are dispensed with the washing and rinsing cycles" ?
Good morning!
The rain hasnt hit us yet but my heater went kaputz last night. Good thing I got wood.
So....
Was it my fault? I didn't post any of those nasty pics I swear. I only used a few choice words.
Blizz's dryer said:
" Green display color on control panel for ease of seeing".
HEY DEB-Bile : It's a code for where we are going next- you won't find us! BWAHAHAHA!
We do get teh silver ions! There's actually a special cycle to put the ions into your clothes, and reportedly some small silver bars that produce them. They're supposed to make your clothes more santiary!
When did it stop responding?
Not that I'm obsessive about paying attention or anything, but I'm pretty sure it was close to 6pm Pacific.
*yawn*
G'morning everybody!
Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies
Farewell and adieu you ladies of Spain
Blizz,
You are SO my kind of "Jaws" geek...
Must be frustrating for teh DEB-Vile. Shelob gets shut down & no one knows or cares if she sets up someplace else. We go dark & legions of folks follow. Hahaha
FREE KIVA!
FREE JEB!
JAIL DEB!
Cali~
Don't worry. No 1's blamin' no 1.
Except Rabbit, of course--she's alwayz 2 blame.
:)
Thanks Backhoe...
I really gotta go now.
I'll see y'all later.
Blizz- are your appliances going to guest blog in Brenda's Dryer?
Tarnation- really gotta go-
(POO-f)
Well gerbils, Ill see y'all later. Ive got a torture machine in my gym that is calling my ass and the dentist at 9. Costco run, then work.
Hola floating gerbil peoples!
Glad to see most everyone here.
So...it was a TOS violation "Harrasment" complaint.
Hate to say it, but I Am glad that I deduced that 'un.
Boy..."Pot meet Kettle", eh?
So El Presidente Sinner, how much specie is this malicious TOS violation complaint costing you in accrued damages?
Sitemeters are a two-way street.
Meanwhile, I'm going back below.
Fixing a washing machine today.
I emailed a few people about our lifeboat and a good thing too. I just got an email from Sven, and initially he thought we were pulling another prank!
Rabbit,
I hope the Doc is able to soothe BW's fears and that the healing is progressing nicely.
Good morning Gerbils! It is no longer Monday, shall we celebrate?
Would someone please send me Teh Debbie's IP info... I had several hits from You Gene just before TSW imploded.
*rubbing hands together* I have a plaaaaaaan.
Making coffee...brb!
*~tink~*
Just dropping in to say hi. It took me a while to get here- I couldn't remember my password from last week. Kinda spooky in here. I miss teh bigger cage.
Pixie~
I can send ISP.
Do I have ur email here?
Minteh,
I didn't have the IP stuff, but I had one of the unique identifying characteristics, and I sent that to Miss Pixie.
X~
Yeah, that's prolly bettah.
(I sent u mail, tho *^^*)
Homey social like that
{{{Homey social like that}}}
And I appreciate it SO much.
{{{X}}}
*^^*
blushin'...
Someone has an SOH~~
http://eugene.craigslist.org/rnr/285430845.html
teh-HEH™
I'm back! Ok, I never actually made it to teh ribbon of death, mostly because the frickin' line to get on the damn thing is over an HOUR LONG. No WAY!
I called in, got the ok to skip teh office this morning, and am on call for any billing related emergencies. I'm anticipating a quiet morning:) Yay for great bosses!
Timmeh! Thanks for teh blogspot coffee this morning. While it wasn't fancy, it was certainly servicable- like a camp out should be.
teh-HEH™
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/d/o/donor_darom/fallout_shelter.jpg
Dip-C~~
Always my pleasure~~
Gladja got a nice, quiet a.m.
:)
Thank you X! Tim, my email is um... maybe in my blogger profile? I dunno. I'm askeered! *wink*
Hope you are all having a lovely morning!
~*tink*~
Cali said: "Good thing I got wood."
Just wanted to remind you all of that.
DFC!
Cali said: "Good thing I got wood."
I'm thinking damn the downpour we need to get some off the stack in the back!
oop! Manners are still being chomped by brenda's dryer...
Good morning, X!
Good morning, Pixie!
Good morning, Denny!
I guess I misinterpreted something Sinner said yesterday, that made me think it was teh wrongness thread that shut us down. That's a relief.
As for TSW being set up to harass, what a crock! Half a dozen or so threads are put up every day, and Sinner has referred to DF only what? -- 2, 3, 4 times in total?
Some commenters refer to her at times, but he's not responsible for teh comments.
This is a no-brainer: There was no TOS violation.
Sounds like someone at teh hosting site overreacted. Or maybe there's lawbaw action we know nothing about yet.
Either way, it wasn't your fault, Denny! Sorry if my mocking was out of line last night.
Has Sinner given us teh 411 on which "term" was said to have been violated?
I might be behind on me thread-readin', but my impression wuz that teh company has only said "TOS" and not gotten more specific (yet).
But, I hasten to add, I ain't blamin' no one.
Except Rabbit.
Tim:
From Sinner's 5:44 comment:
"I did get someone there to say that the TOS violation was that it was used specifically to harass someone."
I'm thinkin' we need a new thread?
DFC~
Thanks very much!
I gotta read threads after
coffee...
Priorities!
:)
I'm with Dipsy on the overreaction. That sounds about right. The ratio of Deb© posts to fun is somewhere in the 50:1 range.
New Thread on der vay...
argh?
Hey X! It worked! Thanks!
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